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Discussions of diversity issues are more critical than ever. And yet, conversations about these topics can be difficult, polarizing, and ineffective, leading to anger and hurt on both sides.\nIn this episode, Debbie interviews Dr. Anatasia Kim and Dr. Alicia del Prado about their new book It's Time to Talk (and Listen): How to Have Constructive Conversations About Race, Class, Sexuality, Ability, and Gender in a Polarized World. Drs. Kim and del Prado offer a glimpse into their practical eight-step approach, the Kim Constructive Conversations Model. This approach can help listeners have difficult conversations by talking authentically about issues related to culture and diversity.\nIf you\u2019ve ever had discussions about diversity issues with co-workers, family, or friends that led to anger or frustration, this episode is for you!\n\n\nListen and Learn:\n\n \tWhy conversations about diversity issues can be so painful and challenging.\n \tWhy we might sometimes choose not to speak up about diversity issues, and why sometimes it\u2019s worth the effort.\n \tHow values-guided conversations can promote healing.\n \tHow to set an effective tone in a conversation and how to raise difficult issues while maintaining the relationship.\n \tWays to respond to valid emotions (like fear and anger) without losing effectiveness.\n\nAbout Drs. Kim and del Prado:\nAnatasia S. Kim, Ph.D., is a tenured associate professor at The Wright Institute in Berkeley, CA, where she also has a private practice specializing in treating adolescents and young adults. She is a National Ronald McNair Scholar and the recipient of numerous awards, including the American Psychological Association Minority Fellowship, Okura Mental Health Fellowship, and APAGS Guardian of Psychology Award. Kim has served as president of the Alameda County Psychological Association, chair of the California Psychological Association (CPA) Immigration Task Force, and diversity delegate of the CPA. She has presented and published in the areas of cultural competency and training, immigration, women of color in academia, and more.\n\nAlicia del Prado, Ph.D., is a tenured associate professor at The Wright Institute in Berkeley, CA, and a licensed counseling psychologist with a private practice in Danville, CA. She has published numerous journal articles and chapters on cross-cultural psychology, personality, acculturation, and ethnic identity, including the first enculturation scale for Filipino Americans. She provides consultation and training on multicultural issues to companies and colleges. Del Prado is chair and co-founder of the Asian American Psychology Association\u2019s (AAPA) Division on Asian Americans with Multiple Heritages and was awarded both the Alameda County Psychological Association\u2019s Janet Hurwich Award and the AAPA Okura Community Leadership Award.\nTo Purchase The Book: It's Time to Talk (and Listen): How to Have Constructive Conversations About Race, Class, Sexuality, Ability & Gender in a Polarized World\n\nResources:\n\n \tDr. Kim\u2019s webpages: https://anatasiakim.com/ and https://www.wi.edu/psyd-faculty-anatasia-kim\n \tDr. del Prado\u2019s webpages: http://www.drdelprado.com/ and https://www.wi.edu/psyd-faculty-alicia-del-prado\n\n__________________________\nThank you for joining us on this episode of Psychologists Off The Clock. We appreciate your feedback. Please take a moment to leave a quick rating and review of the show on Apple Podcasts. It helps us spread the word to more folks like you!\nSubscribe for free where you listen to podcasts!\nApple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Deezer, iHeartRadio, TuneIn\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices