341: Defeating Your Inner and Outer Bullies

Published: April 24, 2023, 8 a.m.

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Featuring Matthew May, MD

Today, Part 1. The Inner Bully

Next week, Part 2. The Outer Bully

There are two types of dialogues that can get us in trouble. The first is your \\u201cInner Dialogue.\\u201d Your Inner Dialogue sometimes consists of negative thoughts and perceptions of yourself and the world, which are often dominated by the familiar cognitive distortions that trigger internal mood problems, like depression, anxiety, guilt, shame, inadequacy, loneliness, hopelessness, and more.

Examples would be \\u201cI\\u2019m a failure because . . . \\u201c or \\u201cI should be better than I am,\\u201d or \\u201cI\\u2019m really going to blow it when I give my talk, and a myriad of variations on these themes. Your Inner Dialogue often consists of mean-spirited things you say to yourself, much like the schoolyard bully who intimidates younger, weaker children. The only difference is that you are doing this to yourself, often without noticing or realizing\\xa0 what that voice inside your brain is up to. When you challenge and crush these distorted perceptions, you can CHANGE the way you FEEL.

Your Outer Dialogue consists of the things you say when you have with interactions with other people, and this can be especially important when you\\u2019re dealing with others who are critical of you, or even threatening you with violence.\\xa0 The strategies are quite different from the strategies you might use to challenge and defeat your Inner bully.

Today, Rhonda, Matt and I will demonstrate various strategies for defeating the Inner Bully. Next week, in Part 2, we will demonstrate strategies for defeating the Outer Bully! Those strategies, in extreme cases, might even save your life one day, as you\\u2019ll see next week.

Rhonda starts the podcast by reading an awesome comment by certified TEAM-CBT therapist Dan Prine, who commented in a kindly way on podcast 334, where we interviewed Michael Yapko on hypnosis.

Then we focus on multiple techniques to challenge two negative thoughts with a variety of strategies. The first negative thought is one we\\u2019ve seen on a number of occasions from women who had abortions as teenagers, and then experienced extreme depression and guilt later in life because of their thought, \\u201cI\\u2019m a bad person because I murdered my baby.\\u201d

Using role-playing, we illustrated E = Empathy, using the Five Secrets of Effective Communication, followed by A = the Assessment of Resistance, using the Magic Button, Positive Reframing, and Magic Dial, followed by M = Methods. Methods included Examine the Evidence, the Double Standard Technique, the Externalization of Voices (with Self-Defense, the Acceptance Paradox, and the CAT, or Counter-/Attack Technique, along with the Socratic Technique, and more.

Then we focused on a thought familiar to Rhonda during moments of insecurity and self-doubt: \\u201cI don\\u2019t matter!\\u201d This thought has plagued Rhonda since she was a child. She recalled her father often saying, \\u201cc"Who are you? You don\'t matter!"

She told herself, \\u201che\\u2019s saying that because I don\\u2019t matter.\\u201d Even the memory causes great pain and agitation.

Of course, on some level, her father\\u2019s comments never had any effect on her. Only your thoughts can cause you to feel one way or another. But this was devastating to Rhonda because she believed what her father said, which is understandable, and those thoughts caused the pain.

We again illustrated many approaches to challenging this thought, but one of the techniques that was most helpful was the CAT. During the Externalization of Voices, the Positive Rhonda said this to her Inner Bully: \\u201cI\\u2019m not going to listen to you anymore! I\\u2019ve had enough of your BS!\\u201d

Thank you for listening today. Remember to tune in to the Outer Bully next week!

Rhonda, Matt, and David

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