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b"Rabbis Avraham Kivelevitz and Kalman Worch pick up from 16 years ago,to begin a whole new series of debate and intelligent argument over a wide range of Torah subjects.Rabbi Kivelevitz,based on his own personal observations,cities the sorry state of respect for civil authorities evinced by so many graduates of Yeshivishe institutions, and bemoans the lack of civility displayed by present students towards secular studies teachers and general apathy for the rote subjects taught during the three to four hours usually afforded for their study.He also expresses concern for the bright young person,who due to language issues or other factors cannot excel in Gemara learning, and feels shunted away and inferior,despite having a creative mind.Exposing the students to serious literary fiction from the masters of their craft, with passages analyzed as thoroughly as the Talmidim are expected to pick apart a sugya, will give gravitas to the language and milieu being studied,and bring home the positive virtues found in the non-Jewish world.Within a carefully crafted framework,these classes would unleash the natural critical speculation that all adolescents have as to the nature of the human.As the themes and language are not sacred, passionate Talmudic trained teachers,can create an pedagogic arena where all students can shine in their reading and suggestions to the author's intent.Arguments can flow freely as to how these books and stories,written centuries ago in some cases,are palpably relevant for today's times.Rabbi Worch believes that rigorous and entertaining instruction in the sciences are indeed important,but feels the literary beauty of Tanach and Chazal are what need to be unearthed and stressed .He opines that the pathos and power of Midrashim and Aggadata dwarfs their drawn out English knockoffs(Choni Ha Maagol vs.Rip Van Winkle).He also fears that the overtly Christian views of writers like Milton and C.S.Lewis can dangerously subvert Emunah,while more contemporary authors can easily insert salacious content or innuendo that is inappropriate.The pair bicker over the quality of translations from Kafka to Dostoevsky,and whose fantasy is superior J.K.Rowling's or Phillip Pullman's.Please leave us a review or email us at ravkiv@gmail.comFor more information on this podcast visityeshivaofnewark.jewishpodcasts.org See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate"