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b"Weeks of lockdown, quarantine and social distancing has generated a reexamination of society's dress codes across the gamut of industry, social services and politics.in this episode the Rabbis debate whether a cudgel and chisel should be taken to the firmly established expectations of appearance in the Orthodox world.Rabbi Worch cites the mantra of the Sefer HaChinuch how persons are altered by consistent external actions into elevated noble beings.Rabbi Kivelevitz dismisses the application of the Chinuch's social theory to inherently illogical strictures, and argues for Rabbanim and Talmidim to be revered or vilified due to their behavior, and not beard length or shirt color.He cites Rav Aharon Lichtenstein as a paradigm of a Gadol,lamdan and Tzadik who did not sport a beard even in his later years when he was recognized as the leader of Dati Leumi Judaism,and respected in all corners of the Yeshiva intellectual world.Worch feels that it was precisely due to Lichtenstein's superior mind and moral character that he could dispense with the norms of culture, while the general populace needs to adhere and support what has arisen organically as the expected uniform for the field of endeavor and community a person chooses to be a part of.Kivelevitz feels that Lichtenstein should serve as an example that we should return to a pre World War II model, where the goatees and light colored suits that adorned the Lithuanian Yeshiva students and their Rabbinic mentors, thrived alongside the long beards and severe black frocks of the insular Chasidic community.The loosening of what are often arbitrary demands of appearance,can lead to the incorporation of a much larger swath of committed persons into a unified Klal Yisroel.Please leave us a review or email us at ravkiv@gmail.comfind out more about this podcast fromyeshivaofnewark.jewishpodcasts.org See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate"