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b'Rabbis Kivelevitz and Rabbi Worch hobble past computer issues and record via telephone an important debate as to whether the time has come to study Kabbalah in earnest.Using Lag BaOmer as their departure point ,the pair acknowledge that the only cause to celebrate the day is by recognizing the contribution Rashbi\'s Zohar and its Lurianic interpreters have made in transforming and uplifting Jewish life.Rabbi Worch feels that the charge contained in the Zohar to bring about the redemption must be acted upon by the Jewish people by devoting themselves to the spreading of the authentic esoteric wisdom of the Torah.That, he argues, will only occur when exact Kabbalistic terminology(sephiros/zivugim/yechudim) and imagery are introduced alongside the standard fundamental Jewish concepts found in Mikra and Mishna.His co-host reminds him that this approach was aggressively suggested almost two centuries ago by Rav Tzvi Hersh of Zidotchov, yet was never adopted even in the cloistered communities of Eastern Europe.Rabbi Kivelevitz believes that the wisdom in its real sense can still thrive in the hands of the great Mystics that still study and engage in theoretical and practical Kabbalah.Rav Shimon Bar Yochai\'s legacy,Kivelevitz points out, has already trickled down in thousands of ways that touch our Tefillos and first assumptions of the nature of the soul and God\'s Providence.The Chasidic masters,he stresses, have already provided enough beautifully crafted ideas and drushim to latch onto for most,with the true strivers still able to join the ranks of the initiates.Rabbi Worch claims that the strictures placed on these studies post the Sabbatian and Frankist debacles need to be lifted in order for a post modern world Jewish community to have what it needs to quench their desire for knowing the essence of our Creator\'s demands on us.Rabbi Kivelevitz responds that in today\'s global open cyber life,uncorking the "ancient wine" could lead to its being sullied and defiled in the manner of Aleister Crowley,or turned into the New Age piffle that attracted Madonna/Esther.Please leave us a review or email us at ravkiv@gmail.comFor more information on this podcast visityeshivaofnewark.jewishpodcasts.org See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This podcast has been graciously sponsored by JewishPodcasts.fm. There is much overhead to maintain this service so please help us continue our goal of helping Jewish lecturers become podcasters and support us with a donation: https://thechesedfund.com/jewishpodcasts/donate'