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b"For thousands upon thousands of people, The Points Guy has been a go-to resource for maximizing their credit card rewards. But the Points Guy himself isn't a professional credit card salesman, and started his eponymous blog on a whim while working in HR at a bank. On this episode, Mike Lewis talks with Brian Kelly about how he found his way in the world of credit card rewards, and what it took to jump from a safe career to a burgeoning business.\\n\\nPurchase the When To Jump book here\\n\\nThis episode is brought to you by Memory Rescue (memoryrescuebook.com) and Grasshopper (grasshopper.com/whentojump)"