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John Gruber of Daring Fireball and The Talk Show joins me to follow up on Jony Ive leaving Apple, starting LoveFrom with Marc Newson, being hired by Apple, Evans Hankey and Alan Dye reporting into Jeff Williams, Sabih Khan becoming SVP of Operations, the future of Tim Cook, Jony's involvement over the last few years, Jony's hardware vs. software chops, and what may happen in the near future with Apple design.

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• Daring Fireball: Jony Ive Is Leaving Apple
• Jony Ive Leaves Apple, Ive’s Legacy, The Post-Ive Apple – Stratechery by Ben Thompson
• The Essence of Apple’s Decision | Asymco

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