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In this episode of the Unseen Leadership podcast, Chandler Vannoy and Josh Hunter are joined by Ben Trueblood who serves as the Director of Student Ministry for Lifeway Christian Resources and has seventeen years of student ministry experience, fourteen of which were spent in the local church as a student pastor. During their conversation, they discuss the importance of mentors, caring more about people than the results, and the biggest keys for leadership as a student pastor. QUOTES FROM EPISODE 9: “Leadership is a call to more.” “Don’t think you have it all figured out. Instead, go seek a mentor to learn from.” “If you don’t know the people you are leading, you won’t know how to lead them.” “People are not a means to an end. People are the end.” “Hold your vision lightly and your strategy loosely.” “Write your mission in ink and the plan in pencil.” “As a student pastor, you must be secure enough in your leadership to lead with confidence.” “Have the humility to involve subject matter experts when you are not one.” “Don’t feel the pressure to always be the smartest person in the room.” “As a leader, you have to be okay with people not liking the direction, decision, or approach you are taking.” “The higher you go up in leadership, there are more meetings, so you must learn to protect your time.” “If you are a young leader, surround yourself with people that can help you get better and know your gaps.” RESOURCES MENTIONED Student Ministry Podcast by Lifeway Students Read for Your Life by Pat Williams Garden City: Work, Rest, and the Art of Being Human by John Mark Comer Good to Great by Jim Collins