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Today we are SO excited to provide you with this fascinating conversation between myself, Dr. Michael Stone & Dr. Gary Brucato - The renowned experts behind "The Gradations of Evil" Scale and their new book "The New Evil: Understanding the Emergence of Modern Violent Crime". 

Show notes —-http://www.upcpodcast.com/archive1/SOEorigins

UPC is a Forensic, Psychology, and True Crime Podcast that takes on:

True Crime: Serial killers, murders, stalkers, cults, forensic analysis

Psychology: Mental illness, social phenomenon, mob mentality, psychoanalysis, etc. 

Culture: Sexuality, Satanic Panic, love, Tv analysis, movie analysis. 

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