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The two pastors spend time getting to know Matthew Black, a musician with whom they are collaborating for this fifth season of Two Pastors' Podcast.

[Producer's note: This episode was recorded prior to the live, online YouTube concert mentioned in this interview. You may still listen to a recording of the concert at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7KRg2_jS2Q ]

For more information on Matt and his music, please visit his homepage at: https://matthewblackmusic.com/

His YouTube Channel is: http://youtube.com/matthewblackmusic

He can be found also on many of the streaming platforms, including Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/artist/5oqlBL6UgYXSZJd0WTKJkG) and BandCamp (matthewblack.bandcamp.com)