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b'It\\u2019s the Never Forget Extravaganza! We\\u2019re joined by military tech journalist Kelsey D. Atherton to breach the memory hole of forever war and consider the invasions and occupations, technologies and tactics, abroad and at home, that have defined the post-9/11 era. This is part one of our conversation with Kelsey. Part two \\u2013 and TMK\\u2019s 100th episode \\u2013 will drop on the Patreon feed on 9/11.\\n\\nWe set the scene by casting our minds back to the beginning of the Global War on Terror \\u2013 then provide something like a bestiary of vehicles, weapons, and surveillance systems \\u2013 then explore the deep and decades long entanglement between Silicon Valley and the Pentagon, along with all the demonic initials like the CIA, FBI, NSA, DHS, ICE \\u2013 then wrap it up with a broader analysis of the forever war machine: how we got here, why it was overdetermined, and what comes next.\\n\\nFollow Kelsey on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AthertonKD \\nSubscribe to Kelsey on Substack: https://athertonkd.substack.com/ \\n\\nSome stuff we reference:\\n\\u2022 These machines were supposed to help win the war in Afghanistan. What happened? | Kelsey D. Atherton: popsci.com/technology/timeline-us-airborne-tools-of-war-afghanistan/ \\n\\u2022 This is the real story of the Afghan biometric databases abandoned to the Taliban | Eileen Guo and Hikmat Noori: technologyreview.com/2021/08/30/1033941/afghanistan-biometric-databases-us-military-40-data-points/ \\n\\u2022 The Global Garage | Will Meyer: thebaffler.com/latest/the-global-garage-meyer \\n\\u2022 The MRAP Story: Learning from History | Stephen W. Miller: asianmilitaryreview.com/2018/10/the-mrap-story-learning-from-history/ \\n\\u2022 Algorithmic War: Everyday Geographies of the War on Terror | Louise Amoore: sci-hub.mksa.top/10.1111/j.1467-8330.2008.00655.x \\n\\nSubscribe to hear more analysis and commentary in our premium episodes every week! patreon.com/thismachinekills \\n\\nGrab your TMK gear: bonfire.com/store/this-machine-kills-podcast/ \\n\\nHosted by Jathan Sadowski (twitter.com/jathansadowski) and Edward Ongweso Jr. (twitter.com/bigblackjacobin). Production / Music by Jereme Brown (twitter.com/braunestahl)'