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b'We take a look at the critical ecologies of the cloud with M\\xe9l Hogan \\u2013 Director of the Environmental Media Lab at the University of Calgary \\u2013 who researches the environmental politics of server farms and data centers. We unpack the ongoing domination of nature by machine and market logics \\u2014 until there isn\\u2019t anything left to dominate.\\n\\n\\u2022\\u2022\\u2022 Mel\\u2019s twitter: https://twitter.com/mel_hogan\\n\\u2022\\u2022\\u2022 M\\xe9l\\u2019s work: https://www.melhogan.com/ \\n\\u2022\\u2022\\u2022 Project on art and the cloud https://www.criticalstudiesofthe.cloud/ \\n\\u2022\\u2022\\u2022 Critical Data Center Studies bibliography: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bnbDNTXlpddbfuShMgRKWvWLFIKUKBchUkluMMOVRkw/edit#heading=h.2bmuylggugur\\n\\nStuff we reference:\\n\\u2022\\u2022\\u2022 Big data ecologies: Landscapes of political action http://www.ephemerajournal.org/contribution/big-data-ecologies\\n\\u2022\\u2022\\u2022 The Nature of Data Centers | special issue of Culture Machine https://culturemachine.net/vol-18-the-nature-of-data-centers/\\n\\u2022\\u2022\\u2022 Power, Pollution and the Internet https://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/23/technology/data-centers-waste-vast-amounts-of-energy-belying-industry-image.html?pagewanted=all \\n\\nSubscribe to hear more analysis and commentary in our premium episodes every week! https://www.patreon.com/thismachinekills \\n\\nGrab TMK gear: https://www.bonfire.com/store/this-machine-kills-podcast/ \\n\\nHosted by Jathan Sadowski (www.twitter.com/jathansadowski) and Edward Ongweso Jr. (www.twitter.com/bigblackjacobin). Production / Music by Jereme Brown (www.twitter.com/braunestahl)'