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b"The blog post with the downloadable Ritual Planning Workbook is at https://atheopaganism.wordpress.com/2018/12/11/starting-a-practice-creating-rituals/\\n\\xa0\\nRemember, we welcome comments, questions and suggested topics at thewonderpodcastQs@gmail.com\\n\\xa0\\nS3E3 TRANSCRIPT:----more----\\nYucca: Welcome back to the wonder science-based paganism.\\nI'm one of your hosts Yucca.\\xa0\\nMark: And I'm the other one, Mark.\\xa0\\nYucca: And this week we're talking about the transition between seasons and also about planning, both your practice and rituals.\\nMark: Right, right. we arrived at this topic because as we record this, which is on the 17th of January happy Martin Luther king day, everyone the we're sort of at this. Midpoint between Sabbaths where you will is a long time ago and a brightening or in bulk or whatever you want to\\xa0\\nYucca: Candlemass.\\xa0\\nMark: Or river rain is I call it is still.\\nWhat three weeks in the future, if you count it as the actual midpoint, like the 7th of February, something like that. And so it's one of those sort of dead spots where, you know, the UL imagery really seems stale. Many of us have taken down all of our decorations and stuff by. And yet it seems a little premature jump into the next holidays, images and symbols and that kind of thing.\\nSo what do you do in transition? What, what about this moment? Speaks to us and, and how can we, you know, keep that as a lively part of our practice as well. And then that got us onto the, the general topic of transitions in life and, you know, planning for those, addressing those so forth.\\xa0\\nYucca: Right. And how some transitions are. They just happen that you don't get to play on for them. Boom. They happen you, whether you knew they were coming or not, and others seem to stretch out and you're not really sure. And oh, when is it? When is it not? And there can be just so many different kinds and we have so many different emotions surrounding that.\\nBut before we get too much into the transitions, why don't we address a little bit more this in between stage? And of course, different people in different climates are going to experience this differently, but certainly for where I am, it's just, doesn't quite feel like we're there. You know, we're definitely out of solstice, but you know, we've, we've taken down most of our souls to see things and it's still winter, but.\\nA lot of the, we haven't really started to do our next activities. And there is, you described it as like a dead spot, but there's also a little bit of a piece there. Right? There's an anticipation, but there's a little bit of arrest and a peace. And just being present in the season without feeling like there's a pressure for any of the.\\nTo perform more or any of that.\\nMark: You know, that's a really good point that I hadn't thought of that. As you mentioned it, it occurs to me that one of the things that's sort of necessary for art and ritual and celebrations are kind of an art form way. need that.\\nblank canvas to contrast with the color that you've painted on it.\\nRight. So. I mean it, maybe it makes sense for us to have periods of time that are just sort of normal there.\\nYucca: Yeah.\\xa0\\nMark: they're just, just normal passage of time. Slotted to one holiday or another, but just the, Between. time when the altar goes back to kind of, sort of alter about the things that we care about and value and it doesn't have to be a seasonal thing necessarily.\\nI kinda liked that thought that, that, that makes a lot of sense to me.\\xa0\\nYucca: Yeah. And I think that there might be times like that in our lives as well. Right. Not just within the season, but within the larger. Cycle right where we're in between these big things were in between these,\\xa0\\nMark: Hmm.\\xa0\\nYucca: know, we've talked before about these rites of passage, these huge things that can happen in people's lives, but sometimes we're just this present in the life now, and there's not a lot happening.\\nWe're just sort of between.\\nMark: That is in some ways, kind of a da"