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b"Book mentioned: \\u201cDigital Minimalism: Choosing a Focused Life in a Noisy World\\u201d by Cal Newport - https://calnewport.com/writing/\\n\\xa0\\nhttps://theAPSociety.org/AWW2023/\\n\\xa0\\nRemember, we welcome comments, questions, and suggested topics at thewonderpodcastQs@gmail.com.\\nS4E16 TRANSCRIPT: ----more----\\n\\xa0\\nMark: Welcome back to the Wonder Science-Based -Paganism. I'm your host, mark.\\nYucca: and I'm Yucca.\\nMark: Today we're going to talk about bringing the natural world that's outside where we live. More into integration with the natural world that's inside where we live. Having more of a sense of connectedness between the two of those and kind of a, an approach to worldview that helps to feed us and help us to be happier.\\nYucca: Right, so really talking about cultivating our environment. Environments, both on an external level and on that emotional internal level as well.\\nMark: Right.\\nYucca: Yeah. So I think this is a really fun one, especially as we're getting more into spring and into this warmer kind of time of the year. But yeah, let's, let's go ahead and get into this idea of kind of, Bringing that in, or as you were saying before, kind of blurring the lines between the outside and inside.\\nMark: Sure, and I really agree with you. I think that springtime is a great time to talk about this because. There's so much that's really beautiful that's happening in the world right now in the, in the spring season in the Northern Hemisphere, and a lot of how much we're going to get out of that depends on our mindset,\\nYucca: Mm-hmm.\\nMark: and it depends on what kind of habits we've developed for ourselves.\\nWe were talking before we started recording about how the, the human sensorium is geared to look for problems. Because problems threaten us. Right? And so solving problems becomes a way that you keep yourself from getting eaten,\\nYucca: Right. The person who didn't worry about that, Those weird noises that they heard around the campfire got eaten and then didn't have babies. So those people aren't our ancestors. The ones who were anxious and worried are our ancestors, right?\\nMark: Exactly. So we're already swimming against the current a little bit when we decide that we want to cultivate a worldview that actually reaches out for what makes us happy, for what brings us awe and wonder and contentment, and a sense of hope and aspiration, all those kinds of things. So we're gonna be talking about all that stuff today.\\nBut to begin with, there's this nature in nature outfit,\\nYucca: Right.\\nMark: and if you're anything like me and all the pagans, I know you've got rocks and sticks and plants and dried flowers and just all kinds of stuff, seashells and. Fossils and just all kinds of things from the natural world inside your house because those things bring you joy.\\nYucca: Mm-hmm. Yes. A lot of those things end up in our pockets and you know, first they end up in the laundry pile and then it all has to come out of the laundry, and then it gets arranged around the house and, and all of that. And I think that's, it's about what are we paying attention to? Right. Because those things are everywhere, the beautiful, I mean, next time you're sitting next to some gravel for a while, right?\\nGravel seems like it might be boring, but if you are sitting there because you're waiting for a bus to come or whatever it is, just start looking at each of those individual rocks. And just the way that the light is shining off of each of them and thinking about the history of how that rock formed, how many millions of years ago, and how it's been tumbled and all, what has happened to it.\\nAnd I think that the, the collecting of those things is a reflection of the interest that we have in them and the interest that we have in the world around us.\\nMark: Right. Right. And that kind of curiosity, which of course is one of the Ethiopia Pagan principles, that kind of interest in the world is part of what engages us with the world, gives us a sense of being connected to"