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b"Remember, we welcome comments, questions and suggested topics at thewonderpodcastQs@gmail.com\\n\\xa0\\nS3E37 TRANSCRIPT:----more----\\n\\xa0\\n\\xa0\\nMark: Welcome back to the Wonder Science-based Paganism. I'm your host, Mark,\\nYucca: And I'm the other one Yucca.\\nMark: and welcome to the Halloween season. This is the season when we celebrate Hallows, or whatever you choose to call it. It's a wonderful witchy holiday that we, pagans really enjoy. It's both fun and and kind of wacky and creative and as well as deep and meaningful and solemn.\\nAnd it's just a really good time all the way around. So, this is our episode to talk about how we celebrate that holiday and what it means to us.\\nYucca: Right. So welcome. So there's a lot to this.\\nMark: There is.\\nYucca: Yeah. So I guess we should start with what and when is this holiday?\\nMark: Ah, right. Okay. Well, you first, what do you think it is and when?\\nYucca: Well, I, for me, it's, it's a little fuzzy on both levels. So there are two holidays that overlap with each other. For me. There is Halloween and then there's Hollows or second Autumn or sowing. I'm not really sure. What name? It's a little bit fluid there. But there's the, the kind of secular Halloween, which is just a celebration of the autumn spooky candy, you know, family fun stuff.\\nAnd then there's also the, the season that we're in, which is this time. Remembering the ancestors honoring of death of the sunset of the year. Really this going into truly going into the cold, dark time of the year. And I know that when we were at Solstice, yes, we kind of flipped over or the Equinox is, is getting closer, but now it really is the cold of.\\nIn my climate, we almost always get our first snow as the kids are trick or treating\\nThat's what it happens, right? Is the kids are out trick or treating and it snows on them. So it, it's, it's a, Halloween is the 31st, but the other holiday is kind of around that time when it feels. When it feels right for me, right When we, we kind of do the holidays at the closest day, that works for us.\\nWe're not too worried about getting the exact moment because it's not like the solstice where the solstice I set an alarm for, right? The moment of the solstice and you know, sometimes that's gonna be two 15 in the morning. I'll just wake up, see some solstice and go back, sleep or, you know, that kind of thing.\\nBut with this it's a little bit more wiggle room. So what about for you?\\nMark: Well, I, I think we have some similarities, but some differences. I have a little bit more formal definition of when the holiday is. I consider this holiday to be a week long.\\nYucca: Mm-hmm.\\nMark: And it extends from the 31st through the seventh of Octo of November, which is when the actual midpoint is between the Equinox and the solstice.\\nYucca: It's my littlest birthday actually. Yes, he's our little saw and\\nMark: so, so official sown is, is is when your little one's birthday is. That's great. So, and I agree with you. On Halloween, we celebrate the secular holiday, which is the candy and the costumes and the, but it's still got all those thematic pieces wrapped up in it, right? It's all the death imagery all of the sort of scary monsters, most of whom have to do with coming back to life after being dead, which is something that we have a, a real aversion to apparently.\\nYucca: Discomfort. Yeah.\\nMark: Yeah, there, that's, that's just not supposed to happen.\\nYucca: Yeah. There and there's that transformation both in like coming back from the dead, but the Halloween, the costumes and stuff have this, You get to be somebody else as well\\nMark: Right,\\nYucca: Yeah.\\nMark: Yeah. You get to be somebody else. And often the way that that expresses itself is as. Kind of the darker side of your personality or the sexier side of your personality. Things that you don't feel necessarily comfortable to express all the time, but there's this day when you're given permission to be able to do that kind of stuff.\\nAnd that's really important. I mean"