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b"Vostok SOS - Vostok-sos.org/en\\nPeople in Need - peopleinneed.net\\nVoices of Children - voices.org.ua/en\\n\\xa0\\nRemember, we welcome comments, questions and suggested topics at thewonderpodcastQs@gmail.com\\n\\xa0\\nS3E8 TRANSCRIPT:----more----\\nMark: Welcome back to the Wonder: Science-based Paganism. I'm your host Mark.\\xa0\\nYucca: and I'm Yucca.\\nMark: And today we are going to talk about that ever present question. Am I a good pagan?\\xa0\\nBut and not meaning me personally, but you know, for each of us that's a pagan asking ourselves, am I a good pagan?\\nAm I, am I doing this right? And we're going to get to that in a minute. And it's a very interesting conversation with a lot of things to be said. But before we do that, we need to say something about what's happening with the Russian invasion of Ukraine.\\xa0\\nYucca: Right. And we should also mention the time of recording right now. We are recording Saturday night. So a lot might happen tomorrow Sunday, between, and then Monday between when we'll actually be listening to this or whenever it is that you're listening. So just bear in mind that we only know what has happened since Saturday evening.\\nYeah.\\nMark: That's\\nright. Yeah.\\nAnd things are moving very fast. So, it's likely that there will be new developments between now and then, but obviously we're appalled by this unwarranted baseless invasion. There's a lot to be said about it. The, the level of personal upset to see a desperate. Just exercising, raw power and invading another Western country is it's bizarre.\\nIt hasn't really happened in Europe in a, in a substantive way since the end of world war two. And it is very similar to world war II in in a number of very disturbing way.\\xa0\\nYucca: Yeah, well, and, and even just setting all of that aside, just the, the amount of pain and the amount of human pain right now just for, you know, not thinking about sides or any of that, but just how much suffering is happening. And you know, None of it's necessary. Yeah,\\nMark: It was all chosen rather than, I mean, suffering happens in the world. Suffering happens to people, but none of this had to happen. It's all happened because one dude chose to make it happen.\\xa0\\nYucca: Yeah.\\nMark: I know that people in the atheopagan community have been very upset about this, what feeling helpless and wondering what to do.\\nYou know, doing rituals of solidarity and you know, that kind of help them feel like they're able to do something and also doing substantive actions to actually help the people of Ukraine.\\xa0\\nYucca: Both are important,\\xa0\\nMark: Both are living with the horror of, this is something that even those of us that are not on the front lines have to do. and we may be very privileged not to be on the front line, but that doesn't mean we're not impacted.\\nYucca: Yeah,\\nMark: We, we are.\\xa0\\nYucca: take care of ourselves just because we deserve to take care of ourselves, but also we can do a better job in the world, helping when we're coming from a more balanced place.\\xa0\\nMark: Yes.\\xa0\\nYucca: We're not quite as, as frazzled and all of that.\\nMark: Yes, exactly. And when we are in our centered place, we can also make wiser decisions about how to help you know, because. There's a part of me. That's just like, we need to take the 82nd airborne over there and just kick the living snot out of Putin in order to prevent him from doing this and make sure that he doesn't do it anywhere else, but that probably isn't the wisest impulse that I have for creating war between two nuclear powers.\\nSo, you know, those rituals can actually help people to get to that wise self where they are able to make more common, measured decisions.\\xa0\\nYucca: Yeah.\\nMark: before we move on to the topic of the day, we did want to provide people with some resources. That they can use to to make donations, to supporting Ukrainians who have been forced to flee their homes. And I have three of them here. The first is called Vostok S O SOS and their URL is V as in Victor, O S T O K hyphen S O s.org. Forward slash"