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Minnesota native, Dave King, grew up a voracious listener of seemingly disparate forms of music. This is reflected in his playing, which illuminates the through line between improvised music and punk. Dave and Joe discuss: getting pumped for high school wrestling by listening to Albert Ayler and Ornette; the band dynamics of the Bad Plus and Happy Apple; how Dave transitioned from being a \\u201cPaul Motian ripoff\\u201d to forging his own creative voice; and Dave\\u2019s bizarre and hilarious web series, Rational Funk