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Highlights of my conversation with Clarence:

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• Moving from a lead IC role to a co-founder
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• Leading through influence
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• Giving up the building hat
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• Realizing that you need to let go earlier than you think
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• Look at processes when you see a law of diminishing returns
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• Trial by fire when you don\\u2019t know when to ask for help
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• Finding peer groups were a great resource to help deal with similar problems
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• When you start, take your time to find out what you want to do
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• The role of the founder is to find, grow and nurture experts
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Meet: Clarence Chio is the co-founder and CTO at Unit21, a Google-funded startup in San Francisco building tools to fight fraud, money laundering, and online abuse. He authored the O\\u2019Reilly Book \\u201cMachine Learning & Security\\u201d and is also an adjunct lecturer at U.C. Berkeley, teaching a graduate course on the same topic.

If you have any questions for Clarence, please feel free to reach out via:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/cchio

https://twitter.com/cchio

I hope you enjoyed the episode. The best place to connect with me is on Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/amirbormand (Amir Bormand). Please message me if you want me to cover specific topics with future guests.