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In this episode, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by\\xa0Rockie\\xa0Brockway.\\xa0\\xa0Rockie\\xa0is currently the Practice Lead for the Office of the CSO for\\xa0TrustedSec. With over 28\\xa0years\' experience\\xa0in information security and business risk,\\xa0Rockie\\xa0specializes in Business Risk Analysis and the inherent relationships between data, assets, adversaries, and the organization\\u2019s brand value. He provides strategic and tactical advisory services to\\xa0TrustedSec\\u2019s\\xa0clients, assisting them in maturing their organizations\\u2019 security programs.\\xa0
00:00 \\u2013 Intro\\xa0
Social-Engineer.com\\xa0
Social-Engineer.org\\xa0
SE Vishing Service\\xa0
SE Phishing Service\\xa0
Pro-Rock.com\\xa0
Breaking Security Awareness Virtual Conference by Living Security\\xa0\\u2013 Chris will appear June 24\\xa0
03:35\\xa0\\u2013\\xa0Rockie\\xa0Brockway Intro\\xa0
07:25\\xa0\\u2013 A little about\\xa0Rockie\\u2019s\\xa0background and how he got started in the industry\\xa0
10:35\\xa0\\u2013\\xa0Rockie\'s\\xa0feelings on the past 29 years,\\xa0from the first virus\\xa0he\\xa0saw vs what we see now\\xa0
12:35\\xa0\\u2013\\xa0Rockie\\xa0was in a math rock band\\xa0called\\xa0Craw,\\xa0Rockie\\xa0played shows with CLUTCH!!!\\xa0\\xa0
17:15\\xa0\\u2013 What should I have or learn to get a job in a company like yours?\\xa0
20:55\\xa0-\\xa0\\xa0Practical Social Engineering certification\\xa0
21:52\\xa0\\u2013 How do you take curious and knowledgeable people\\u2019s knowledge and bridge that gap between them and the decision makers?\\xa0
23:43\\xa0\\u2013 How can young people get the qualities you suggest?\\xa0
25:20\\xa0\\u2013 Never be afraid of failure\\xa0
27:45\\xa0\\u2013 How important is\\xa0top-down\\xa0leadership support, or what are the most important aspects of doing your job?\\xa0
31:25\\xa0\\u2013 Are there more or less \\u201cfuture thinking\\u201d proactive security concerns than there were years ago?\\xa0
36:02\\xa0\\u2013 What level of organizations are bringing you in for your assistance?\\xa0
37:28\\xa0\\u2013 Action steps for corporations to start doing now\\xa0
Outro\\xa0
40:42\\xa0\\u2013 Colleagues you respect most in the industry\\xa0
42:45\\xa0\\u2013 Book recommendations\\xa0
44:33\\xa0\\u2013 How to contact\\xa0Rockie\\xa0