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Published: May 10, 2021, 5 a.m.

In this episode,\xa0Chris Hadnagy\xa0and\xa0Maxie Reynolds\xa0are joined by industry professional Jack Schafer, PhD.\xa0 Dr. Schafer\xa0is a psychologist, professor, intelligence consultant, and former FBI Special Agent. Dr.\xa0Schafer spent fifteen years conducting counter-intelligence and counterterrorism investigations, and seven years as a behavioral analyst for the FBI's National Security Division's Behavioral Analysis Program.\xa0 May 10, 2021 \xa0

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00:00 - Intro\xa0

Social-Engineer.com\xa0

Vishing as a Service (VaaS)\xa0

Phishing as a Service (PHaaS)\xa0

Black Hat\xa0

Slack Channel\xa0

Clutch\xa0

Innocent Lives Foundation\xa0

03:32 - Introduction to Dr. Jack Schafer, PhD.\xa0

04:54 - How Jack decided to start training people in his field after retirement\xa0

07:46 - Why is rapport building important?\xa0

11:49 - How do you stop rapport from being used against you?\xa0

13:51 - Explaining \u201cThe Truth Bias\u201d\xa0

15:37 - Rapport works across different cultures\xa0

18:15 - The basic human need to correct other people\xa0

19:28 - Integrating the knowledge of that need into work as an FBI agent - \u201cBrian\u2019s Loop\u201d\xa0

23:01 - People don\u2019t answer yes or no, they answer Yes+, No+, I Don\u2019t Know+\xa0

23:19 - Flattery\xa0

25:13 - Roundabout vs Direct Approach\xa0

26:45 - The \u201cright\u201d way is the way that works for you\xa0

29:58 - The Truth \u201cDefault Mode\u201d and breaking the baseline\xa0

33:05 - Verbal vs. Non-Verbal Cues\xa0

36:19 - Get A Commitment\xa0

37:36 - Why does getting a commitment work on humans?\xa0

39:50 - The Lip Purse\xa0

42:40 - Wrap Up\xa0

The Like Switch\xa0

The Truth Detector\xa0

Emma\xa0

44:45 - Jack\u2019s Mentors\xa0

46:30 - Contact Jack\xa0

Jack Schafer on LinkedIn\xa0

Email:\xa0jackschafer500@yahoo.com\xa0

47:06 - Outro\xa0

Maxie Reynolds on Twitter\xa0

Maxie Reynolds on Instagram\xa0

Chris Hadnagy on Twitter\xa0

Social-Engineer on\xa0Instagram\xa0

www.social-engineer.com\xa0

www.social-engineer.org\xa0

www.humanhackingconference.com\xa0

www.humanhackingbook.com\xa0

www.innocentlivesfoundation.org\xa0

Social-Engineering Slack Channel\xa0

CLUTCH\xa0

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