Podcasts Science Social Sciences The Social-Engineer Podcast Ep. 143- Empathetic Hugs with Ida Ngambeki

Ep. 143- Empathetic Hugs with Ida Ngambeki

Published: April 12, 2021, 5 a.m.

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In this episode of the Social-Engineer podcast,\\xa0Chris Hadnagy\\xa0and\\xa0Maxie Reynolds\\xa0are joined by Dr. Ida\\xa0Ngambeki, an Assistant Professor of\\xa0Computer\\xa0and Information Technology at Purdue University.\\xa0Listen in as they discuss\\xa0importance of empathy and\\xa0the best ways to teach social engineering.\\xa0 April 12, 2021

00:00\\xa0\\u2013\\xa0Intro\\xa0

Clutch\\xa0

The Innocent Lives Foundation\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0

03:25 \\u2013 Introduction to\\xa0Dr. Ida\\xa0Ngambeki\\xa0

04:20 \\u2013 How Ida got into\\xa0social\\xa0engineering\\xa0

08:45 \\u2013 Teaching the next generation of\\xa0social\\xa0engineers\\xa0

11:30 \\u2013\\xa0Teaching the\\xa0distinct aspects\\xa0of social\\xa0engineering\\xa0

17:05\\xa0\\u2013 The difference between a\\xa0pentester\\xa0and a\\xa0malicious\\xa0actor\\xa0

19:01 \\u2013 The importance\\xa0of\\xa0bias and assumptions\\xa0

20:36 \\u2013\\xa0Ida\\u2019s unconventional path to social engineering\\xa0expertise\\xa0

24:42 \\u2013 The importance of empathy in security education\\xa0

27:50 \\u2013 The three aspects\\xa0of empathy\\xa0

30:04\\xa0\\u2013 Diversity in the information security industry\\xa0

34:22 \\u2013 Chris getting held at gunpoint\\xa0

39:50\\xa0\\u2013 The problem with fear-based pretexts\\xa0

42:32 - Ida\\u2019s industry mentors\\xa0

Donna Riley\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0

Demitra Evangelou\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0

Melisa Dark\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0

Alejandrah\\xa0Magana\\xa0\\xa0

William Gratiano\\xa0\\xa0\\xa0

Mark Rogers\\xa0

45:14 \\u2013 Ida\'s book\\xa0recommendations\\xa0

Code Girls\\xa0

47:59 \\u2013 Ida\'s contact info\\xa0

49:23 \\u2013 Maxie\'s book\\xa0

51:02\\xa0- Outro\\xa0

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