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Bob Woodward on His Calls with Trump

Published: Jan. 16, 2023, 5 p.m.

b'Bob Woodward has been writing about the White House for more than fifty years, going toe to toe with nearly every President after Richard Nixon. Woodward is every inch the reporter, not one to editorialize. But, during his interviews with Donald Trump at the time of the COVID-19 crisis, Woodward found himself shouting at the President\\u2014explaining how to make a decision, and trying to browbeat him into listening to public-health experts. Woodward has released audio recordings of some of their interviews in a new audiobook called \\u201cThe Trump Tapes,\\u201d which documents details of Trump\\u2019s state of mind, and also of Woodward\\u2019s process and craft. Despite having written critically of Trump in 2018, Woodward found his access unprecedented. \\u201cI could call him anytime, [and] he would call me,\\u201d Woodward tells David Remnick. His wife, Elsa Walsh, \\u201cused to joke [that] there\\u2019s three of us in the marriage.\\u201d'