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b'Visit Our Sponsor: Foraged.Market\\nDonate Directly:\\xa0via PayPal\\xa0-or-\\xa0Venmo @permaculturepodcast\\n\\xa0\\nWant to listen to more conversations about Permaculture?\\xa0Browse the extensive archives of the show.\\xa0\\n\\n \\n\\n\\n\\n\\n \\n \\n \\n \\n \\n\\n\\n\\n\\n\\n\\n\\n\\n\\n\\n\\n\\n\\n\\n\\n \\n \\n \\nMy guest today is Shaun Chamberlin, the editor of Lean Logic: A Dictionary for the Future and How to Survive It and Surviving the Future, both of which are based on the work of the late David Fleming (1940 - 2010).\\n\\n \\n\\n\\n\\nLearn More'