The renaissance of the Cleveland sports fan - Scott Raab on LeBron, Josh Gordon, Jim Thome, Dan Gilbert and more - WFNY Podcast - 2013-06-24

Published: June 24, 2013, 1:20 p.m.

b"Scott and I had a conversation over the weekend prior to the podcast in which we decided it was time to see if there's a greater purpose that we can serve. With all the news of LeBron James, Josh Gordon, Greg Little and Tristan Thompson last week, we decided to discuss whether or not Cleveland fans need to redefine who they are. We've lost our way. Our organizations, from owners and players are more temporary than we are and it is time to stop letting everyone else define us. We need to define ourselves.\\n\\n\\nLeBron and his legacy is secured now\\n\\nCan we let storylines unfold?\\n\\nDid this cement the Spurs legacy?\\n\\nDo the ends justify the means?\\n\\nMagic Johnson and how much butt he kissed of players during the finals\\n\\nPhilanthropy and who the most generous people in the world are\\n\\nThe word genius and the senior superlatives\\n\\nThe quarterly earnings announcements and Apple\\n\\nTax avoidance in corporate life and \\u201cbranding\\u201d\\n\\nJosh Gordon and Greg Little hanging with the Heat and \\u201cbranding\\u201d\\n\\nLet\\u2019s assume that they were down there trying to do business\\n\\nTristan Thompson and Rich Paul hanging out with the Heat\\n\\nCleveland sports fans have lost their way\\n\\nBrowns fans didn\\u2019t lose their identity when the team was left\\n\\nWe need to define ourselves and who we are as fans as something more than victims\\n\\nThe fans and their fandom will outlive all the players and owners\\n\\nScott Raab and his conversation with Dwyane Wade\\n\\nCleveland internalizing the worst of their self-image\\n\\nTom Brady and wearing the Yankees cap around Manhattan\\n\\nThe symbol of Dan Gilbert\\u2019s original sin was LeBron\\u2019s Yankee cap at Jacob\\u2019s Field\\n\\nYou can\\u2019t indict players for their personal relationships or who they want to associate with\\n\\nJosh Cribbs using Dan Gilbert\\u2019s seats and tweeting about LeBron\\n\\nJim Thome statue is pathetic and it defines Cleveland\\n\\nYou can\\u2019t define your ceiling as Jim Thome\\n\\nDevil\\u2019s advocate, but aren\\u2019t we being too overly sensitive?\\n\\nThis doesn\\u2019t happen in other cities\\n\\nDo the owners ever talk to each other?\\n\\nThe letter that Dan Gilbert wrote was truly great\\n\\nWho\\u2019s more important to you as a business? Employee or customer?\\n\\nPlease let us know what you think.\\n\\nWhat can we do?\\n\\n\\n\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices"