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Today\'s episode was a live podcast episode for Ari\'s Take Academy students with guests Rog\\xe9t Chahayed and his manager Greg Katz. Rog\\xe9t is a Grammy-nominated producer and songwriter whose songs have sold over 30 million copies. He\'s worked with some of the biggest names in the business, including Halsey, Travis Scott, Drake, Miguel, G-Eazy, Ke$ha, Calvin Harris, Carly Rae Jepsen, and more.

We got into both the production and business sides. We discussed producer points, splits, songwriter credits, publishing, and how to get a publishing deal. Rog\\xe9t also gives great advice to aspiring songwriters and producers on how to get started.

This podcast was live for Ari\'s Take Academy students. At the end of the conversation, they were able to ask Rog\\xe9t and Greg questions.

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Quick links:

2:45 - How Rog\\xe9t went from studying classical music to working with Dr Dre

8:04 - About Rog\\xe9t\'s first production

11:00 - How Greg started managing Rog\\xe9t

13:45 - Being under credited and what that was like

16:35 - Advice to artists and producers on how to protect themselves from being under credited and screwed

21:25 - What\'s the difference between a songwriter and producer? 

24:04 - When do you discuss splits?

27:50 - Breaking down the producer point system

30:08 - Is it more common to get an upfront producer fee or a backend royalty at Rog\\xe9t\'s level? 

35:20 - Breaking down Rog\\xe9t\'s publishing deal with Kobalt

40:11 - Pointers to songwriters when looking for a publisher/publishing deal

44:30 - Student questions

58:28 - What it means to Rog\\xe9t and Greg to make it in the new music business

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