David Gladstone - Farmland Is One of the Most Stable Assets One Can Own | #114

Published: July 25, 2018, 5 p.m.

b'In Episode 114, we welcome entrepreneur and author, David Gladstone. We start with David\\u2019s backstory, which dovetails into how he got into farming, and subsequently, launching a farmland REIT.\\nMeb asks for David\\u2019s broad thoughts on investing in farmland.\\nDavid tells us \\u201cfarmland is one of the most stable assets one can own.\\u201d He goes on to say how it correlates with gold, not with the stock market. David gives us an overview of the farming landscape \\u2013 how corn and wheat are the big categories, but this isn\\u2019t where David goes with his REIT, too much competition. He focuses more on berries and specialty crops, which are far more profitable. He mentions how tree/vine/bush crops have a great long-term record for making money for farmers.\\nNext, Meb asks about operations \\u2013 does David manage the farms? Just rent them out?\\nDavid tells us they use triple net leases with their farmer tenants. Sometimes they will also have a revenue participation, but that\\u2019s unusual. David goes on to say how farmland is becoming more scare, so they choose farmers who are experienced and trusted. As an investment, farmland has done quite well. NCREIF publishes a farm index \\u2013 it has done 12.2% annually over the last 10 years. David believes that due to the growth and stability of farmland, it\\u2019s an excellent place to put money \\u2013 especially as it\\u2019s a hedge against inflation. He references a Buffett quote that touts owning farmland versus owning gold.\\nMeb asks whether there are any current trends in the farming space. David tells us the number of acres per person is declining. It\\u2019s now down to about 0.5 farmed acres per person in the world. The conversation segues into water. David makes the point that his team only buys farms with access to their own water. This makes a huge difference. He references the California drought in recent years and notes it was an incredibly profitable period for them since their farms, with their own water supply, continued operations.\\nNext, Meb asks about David\\u2019s framework for finding new farms. What\\u2019s the process, and what\\u2019s the capital structure?\\nDavid tells us that\\u2019s what important is to have a tremendously strong farmer. They only deal with the top 20% of farmers in any growing area, so it\\u2019s a detailed vetting process. In terms of capital structure, they tend to finance about 50% of the purchase price. They use a variety of lenders.\\nThe guys soon turn toward \\u201crisks.\\u201d David tell us that rising rates are a risk since they use debt. As rates rise, the price of the farms they purchase will need to drop in order to make the numbers work. Another risk are tariffs. This has a been a big problem for seeds. What if China or Mexico reduces their purchases?\\nThere\\u2019s far more in this unique episode: David\\u2019s thoughts on expanding farmland REITs globally\\u2026 the role of automation in farming\\u2026 and why there aren\\u2019t more farmland REITS. If you\\u2019re curious about farmland as an investment, this is definitely the episode for you.\\nGet all the details in Episode 114.\\nLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices'