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Two more edgy Tom Fontana (Homicide: Life on the Street, St. Elsewhere) crime shows are reviewed: HBO's first big primetime show Oz and Showtime's recent entry City on a Hill! Mike Hartshorn joins me in how Oz might both be one of our absolute favorite shows still to date.

What connections to they have to Fontana's St. Elsewhere universe? Is City's main role for Kevin Bacon easily on of his best antagonistic roles to date as the crooked FBI agent-turned-vigilante? Without Oz's influence, would anyone had actually aired Sopranos, Justified or Sons of Anarchy for that matter? And which of these prisoners are easily the most quotable fictional characters to date? And more reminiscing on how both shows are "criminally" underrated these days. #cityonahill #tomfontana #stelsewhere #homicide #thewire #oz #prison #hbo #showtime #network #shows #badass #writing #acting #directing #thrillers #crime #action #drama #hostages #prisoners #poetry #redemption #corruption #fbi #agents #lawyers #allstars #cast #crew #emmys #awards #nominations #influential #cool