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John Gale is the Conservation Director for\\xa0Backcountry Hunters and Anglers\\xa0(BHA). He\\u2019s also a fifth-generation Idahoan who grew up engaged in politics at a young age. Nowadays John is the man on Capitol Hill for BHA and he\\u2019s as immersed in public land policy as anyone in the conservation game.

I caught up with John at BHA\\u2019s Rendezvous to drink some local beer and try to get the whole story on the present and future of the battle for public lands.

We spoke about our public lands legacy, land transfer, the Land and Water Conservation Fund, the North American Model for Wildlife, the national monuments issue, politicizing land use and much more.

Enjoy this in-depth conversation that I hope can provide some perspective in the conversation on how to keep our lands public.

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