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Immediately after President Biden announced his college loan forgiveness plan Christians started debating it. Some are arguing that debt forgiveness is deeply biblical, while others say it\\u2019s completely immoral. Who\\u2019s right? Or, are both sides missing the point? Then, Phil is still processing the last French Friday episode about why so many politically active evangelicals see policy goals as absolute and Christian virtues as flexible. He offers his theories. Skye then talks to pastor Rich Villodas about his conversion, his early spiritual formation, and how he\\u2019s avoided the pitfalls of pastoral ministry. His new book is \\u201cGood and Beautiful and Kind: Becoming Whole in a Fractured World.\\u201d Plus: Row, row, row\\u2026your pumpkin?

News Segment
0:00 - Intro
2:48 - Pumpkin boat recording
13:36 - French Friday follow-up
29:27 - Debt forgiveness

Interview with Rich Villodas
\\u201cGood and Beautiful and Kind: Becoming Whole in a Fractured World\\u201d - https://amzn.to/3AWPT7Y

48:11 - Rich Villodas interview intro
49:54 - Rich\\u2019s background and early spiritual formation
1:03:59 - Mentors
1:11:11 - The church today
1:13:38 - Self-differentiation
1:18:27 - Coaching pastors and leaders
1:23:42 - Advice for church leaders
1:27:43 - Credits

\\u201c\\u2018Gourdspeed.\\u2019 60-year-old paddles 38 miles in huge pumpkin to set record, photos show\\u201d - https://amp.heraldonline.com/news/nation-world/national/article265015734.html

French Friday: De-Radicalizing the Church & Learning from Atheists - https://www.holypost.com/post/french-friday-de-radicalizing-the-church-learning-from-atheists

\\u201cChristian Political Ethics are Upside-Down\\u201d by David French (The Dispatch) - https://frenchpress.thedispatch.com/p/christian-political-ethics-are-upside

Tony Perkins interview that Phil references - https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/01/23/tony-perkins-evangelicals-donald-trump-stormy-daniels-216498/

\\u201cRepublicans Opposing Student-Loan Relief Are Forgetting the Biblical Tradition of Debt Forgiveness\\u201d by William J. Barber II and Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove (Time) - https://time.com/6208577/student-loan-forgiveness-republicans-christianity-bible/

\\u201cIs There a Christian Case for Biden\\u2019s Debt Relief Plan?\\u201d by David French (The Dispatch) - https://time.com/6208577/student-loan-forgiveness-republicans-christianity-bible/

\\u201cBest of: Cancel America\\u2019s Student Loan Debt! But How?\\u201d podcast episode (The Argument, NYT) - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/best-of-cancel-americas-student-loan-debt-but-how/id1438024613?i=1000577188963

Rich Villodas:
richvillodas.com
https://youtube.com/c/NewLifeFellowshipChurchNewYorkCity

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