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This week is a special a double feature! First, Phil talks to Esau McCaulley about his recent NY Times editorial about President Biden\\u2019s vengeance against terrorists in Afghanistan. McCaulley asks why so few Christian politicians seem to have Christian instincts, and what role should forgiveness have in American foreign policy. Then, Skye interviews author and podcaster Jamie Ivey about her experience as a white mom raising black kids, how it\\u2019s changed her understanding of race, and why she no longer believes love can solve every problem. Also this week\\u2014new polling indicates a frightening number of people on both the right and left want to disunite the country. Are we on a path toward civil war, and is social media to blame? News Segment Trump voters are worried about anti-white discrimination and think

Christianity is under attack [4:00]

https://news.yahoo.com/84-trump-voters-worry-discrimination-143538052.html

https://twitter.com/robertpjones/status/1447601670595223557

People on the right and left wanting to disunite the country [15:10] https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10050039/More-HALF-Trump-voters-want-red-states-secede-union.html

Interview w/ Esau McCaulley Interview Start: [25:41]

\\u201cThe Dangerous Politics of \\u2018We Will Not Forgive\\u2019\\u201d https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/19/opinion/revenge-forgiveness-terrorism-biden.html

\\u201cReading While Black\\u201d https://amzn.to/3lxPtx5

Interview with Jamie Ivey: The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey: https://www.jamieivey.com/podcast-2/

\\u201cGod Made You to Be You\\u201d https://amzn.to/3BEHmnX

Ivey Family Interview with Emmanuel Acho: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONTXrsvenUY

Interview Start: [54:14]

The decision to adopt [58:48]

Jamie\\u2019s background [1:00:54]

Parenting differently and the church\\u2019s response [1:08:54]

Connecting kids with black heritage [1:19:50]

Frustration and hope with the church [1:28:12]

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