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Description: Rick Warren, the founder and former pastor of Saddleback Church, is speaking out after his church was ejected from the Southern Baptist Convention for ordaining women. Phil explains how the SBC went from being accepting of female leaders, to opposing them, to kicking out churches that depart even slightly on the issue. Then, Kaitlyn talks with Dr. Beth Felker Jones and Dr. Amy Peeler about Joshua Butler\\u2019s controversial article comparing the gospel to marital sex. They explain what his article gets fundamentally wrong about the New Testament\\u2019s marriage metaphor. Plus, a new study finds evangelicals are the least liked religious group in America, except by evangelicals who think they\\u2019re great. And someone is anonymously leaving their mark on Broadway.

Patreon Bonus: Bonus Interview with Beth Felker Jones & Amy Peeler

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0:00 -\\xa0 Intro

2:45 - Theme Song

3:55 - News of the Butt

9:03 - Evangelicals loved by Evangelicals, but not anyone else

14:14 - SBC history around women ordination\\xa0

26:49 - Denny Burke\\u2019s response to Rick Warren

46:14 - Guest Interview - Beth Felker Jones & Amy Peeler

53:47 - Can marriage and sex point us to God?

59:29 - Interpreting the marriage metaphor in Ephesians 5

1::03:11 - Flaws of the giver, receiver framework

1:18:59 - End Credits

Links mentioned in news segment:

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Fan poops in aisle near Hillary and Chelsea Clinton at Broadway show

https://pagesix.com/2023/03/20/fan-poops-in-aisle-near-hillary-and-chelsea-clinton-at-show/

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Evangelicals Are the Most Beloved US Faith Group Among Evangelicals

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2023/march/evangelical-reputation-negative-us-survey-religious-groups-.html

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\\xa0The Southern Baptist Convention\\u2019s coming \\u2018Great Ejection\\u2019 https://religionnews.com/2023/03/22/the-southern-baptist-conventions-coming-great-ejection/

Rick Warren Has Done the SBC a Great Service
https://www.dennyburk.com/rick-warren-has-done-the-sbc-a-great-service/

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The Bible\\u2019s Marriage Metaphor Doesn\\u2019t Belong In the Bedroom by Amy Peeler

https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2023/march-web-only/marriage-metaphor-ephesians-5-christ-husband-sex-tgc.html

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Protestant bodies, Protestant bedrooms, & our furious need for a theology thereof by Beth Felker Jones

https://bethfelkerjones.substack.com/p/protestant-bodies-protestant-bedrooms

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Faithful: A Theology of Sex by Beth Felker Jones

https://amzn.to/42QqaK7

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