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My goal this year is to put myself in as many uncomfortable situations as possible. I wanted to get out of my comfort zone. On The Amazing Race, we were put in MANY uncomfortable positions. I found that it was easier for me to tackle bigger-picture things (like bungee jumping) than the everyday things. Something as simple as making a take-out order makes my pits sweat (and in a recent social media post, we found out many of you feel the same about phone calls to strangers!)

Penn and I wanted to know why phone calls are making people anxious, so we asked Dr. Selena Snow. She says humans tend to pay more attention to negative information because we are hard-wired to spot danger. However, avoiding things that make us uncomfortable can make things worse. So, let\'s get uncomfortable and learn more...

Learn more about Dr. Selena Snow here: https://snowpsych.com/in-the-media/ Tell us what you like, ask a question, or just say hi. Call 323-364-3929. Your support means the world to us. If you like this podcast please consider leaving us a review. We also love feedback. Email us at podcast@theholdernessfamily.com.

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Kim and Penn are online content creators known for their award-winning videos, including original music, song parodies, and comedy sketches. Their videos have resulted in over 2 billion views and 8 million followers across their social media platforms since they (accidentally) went viral in 2013. They have a best-selling book on marriage communication, a top-rated podcast, a fun-filled family card game, and most recently, they were the winners on Season 33 of The Amazing Race. Through their comedy, they tackle topics like living with ADHD and anxiety. Penn and Kim have been married for 18 years. They live in Raleigh, NC with their children, Lola and Penn Charles, and their dog, Sunny.  

The Holderness Family Podcast is edited and engineered by Max Trujillo of Trujillo Media and produced by Ann Marie Taepke, Sam Pressman, and Ashley Cimino.

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