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Ian Williams joins us to chat about his book "Soil and Spirit: Seeds of Purpose, Nature\'s Insight and the Deep Work of Transformational Change". We get into his background, his spiritual experience, what the sixth mass extinction is, the big picture, Eastern Energy Arts, resilience through diversity, regenerative future and other solutions.

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We also talk about how being in nature\\xa0 and nature comes back around, going inward, post activism, staying devoted, hacking our souls, climate change, colonialism and the line in the sand.

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In the intro we chat about all the new censorship, our latest Grimerica Outlawed guest Arthur Kwon Lee, and the Disclosure 2.0 at the Washington Press Club.

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https://www.youtube.com/live/zDY7t6HihCw?feature=share Disclosure 2.0

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