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This week, part two of our conversation with conservationist Pete Bethune. He founded Earthrace Conservation and hatched a plan to send hundreds of activists to the Faroes to interfere with whale hunts. He eventually abandoned the plan when he determined it would be counter-productive to his goals of ending Faroese whaling.

In the second half of our conversation, Bethune talks about why he objects to the whale hunts and how he believes they might eventually end. He'll also talk about the moment when he started to really like the Faroese people.

We'll end the show by standing outside and apologizing to a hotel.