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b'The United States believes that whoever controls fifth-generation cellular networks, known as 5G, will have a global advantage for decades to come. The fear is that China is almost there. Guest: David E. Sanger, a national security correspondent for The New York Times and the author of \\u201cThe Perfect Weapon: War, Sabotage, and Fear in the Cyber Age.\\u201d For more information on today\\u2019s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.'