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This episode contains strong language and details of a sexual assault accusation.\n\nSince a jury ruled in favor of Johnny Depp in his defamation case against his ex-wife Amber Heard, there has been impassioned debate about what exactly the outcome means for the #MeToo movement.\n\nIt raises the question: If people being accused of sexual assault can potentially win defamation cases in court, what does that mean for the accused \u2014 and the accusers \u2014 moving forward?\n\nGuest: Julia Jacobs, a culture reporter for The New York Times.