Wednesday, Nov. 22, 2017

Published: Nov. 22, 2017, 11:03 a.m.

Robert Mugabe has been the leader of Zimbabwe as long as there has been a Zimbabwe. Having once proclaimed that \u201conly God will remove me,\u201d he resigned as president on Tuesday after nearly four decades in power. Will he be remembered as a tyrant, or as a hero? Guest: Jeffrey Gettleman, who was East Africa bureau chief of The New York Times for more than a decade. For more information on today\u2019s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.\n\nWe will be taking the rest of the week off for Thanksgiving. See you Monday.