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\u201cNothing comes easily out here,\u201d Terry Tempest Williams, a Utah-based writer, said of the American West. Her family was once almost taken by fire, and as a child of the West, she grew up with it.\n\nOur producer Bianca Giaever, who was working out of the West Coast when the wildfires started, woke up one day amid the smoke with the phrase \u201can obituary to the land\u201d in her head. She called on Ms. Williams, a friend, to write one.\n\n\u201cI will never write your obituary,\u201d her poem reads. \u201cBecause even as you burn, you throw down seeds that will sprout and flower.\u201d\n\nGuest: Bianca Giaever, a producer for The New York Times, speaks to the writer Terry Tempest Williams.\n\nFor more information on today\u2019s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily