Today, we\u2019re sharing an excerpt from a new Times audio series called \u201cSugar Calling,\u201d hosted by the best-selling author Cheryl Strayed. Each week, Cheryl will call a writer she admires in search of insight and courage. She\u2019s turning to some of the most prolific writers of our time \u2014 all over the age of 60 \u2014 to ask the questions on all our minds: How do we stay calm when everything has been upended? How do we muster courage when fear is all around us?\n\nTo start, Cheryl reaches out to the author George Saunders, her old friend and mentor.\n\n"Sugar Calling" is a new podcast by The New York Times. You can listen to the full version of the first episode here.