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b'Will Harborne, CEO of DeversiFI, joins Charlie Shrem on today\\u2019s episode of Untold Stories.\\nCharlie and Will discuss DeversiFI , decentralization, meeting Vitalik at Cambridge, leaving IBM for Bitfinex, the ICO boom, open source communities, yield farming, trading Bitcoin in his bedroom, writing smart contracts, stable coins, getting paid in crypto, regulatory pressure from governments on crypto, Defi use cases, permissionless systems, wrapping synthetic assets, and building DeversiFI.\\n\\u2013\\u2013\\u2013\\nBitpay Card\\nThe all new Bitpay card is chalked full of new features. It has contactless pay, a new EMV chip, added in-app security where users can lock their card anytime, and so much more. Unlike other cards, reloading has no conversion fees & you can load your card whenever you want to. Download the latest version of the BitPay App and click the card icon to get to the new card offer.\\n\\u2013\\u2013\\u2013\\nThis podcast is powered by BlockWorks Group. For exclusive content and events that provide insights into the crypto and blockchain space, visit them at https://blockworksgroup.io'