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b"Jason Goldberg, Founder of OST and Pepo, joins Charlie Shrem on this week\\u2019s episode of Untold Stories. They begin by laying out what needs to happen for crypto mass adoption to take place. Jason goes on to talk about what led him to build in crypto and the potential he saw in it. He continues to explain the roots of Pepo and OST in the idea of building the tech instead of waiting for it, and focusing on the user experience. Charlie asks about maximalism and tribalism and Jason explains his belief in Bitcoin and Ethereum as the only 2 layer 1's that matter. Jason talks about his tech and business experience. They discuss the lessons learned from the dotcom bubble and parallels between the development of the internet and the growth of crypto technology. Jason finishes the session by talking about their long-term building approach.\\n---\\nBitPanda\\nBitpanda is a fintech based in Vienna, Austria founded in 2014 by Eric Demuth, Paul Klanschek and Christian Trummer. The company is a firm believer in the innovative power of cryptocurrencies, digitised assets and blockchain technology. Bitpanda\\u2019s mission is to tear down the barriers to investing and bring traditional financial products to the 21st century. Today, Bitpanda has more than 1 million users and 120 team members. With a PSD2 payment service provider license, state-of-the-art security and streamlined user experience, Bitpanda has grown into a popular trading platform for newbies and experts alike. Users can currently trade Bitcoin, Ethereum, gold and over 20 other digital assets.\\n---\\nPepo\\nPepo was founded by Jason Goldberg, who has been building user experiences for creators and communities for decades. Jason has worked at AOL, Jobster, Social Median, and more recently he connected designers at Hem and Fab. Visit us at Pepo.com/stories for more information.\\n---\\nIf you enjoyed this conversation, share it with your colleagues & friends, rate, review, and subscribe.This podcast is presented by BlockWorks Group. For exclusive content and events that provide insights into the crypto and blockchain space, visit them at: https://www.blockworksgroup.io"