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David Aaronovitch and guests talk through the thinking behind Hamas's deadly attack on Israel, discuss what might happen next and ask what all this means politically.

Guests:

Jennifer Jefferis, Director of Curriculum at the Security Studies Program, in the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown\\nShashank Joshi, Defence editor at The Economist \\nDavid Makovsky, Ziegler Distinguished Fellow at The Washington Institute and director of the Koret Project on Arab-Israel Relations

Production: Ben Carter, Sally Abrahams and Kirsteen Knight\\nProduction co-ordinator: Sophie Hill and Jacqui Johnson\\nSound: James Beard\\nEditor: Richard Vadon