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David Aaronovitch and guests talk about what a second Trump presidency might mean for America's relationship with the world and discuss what countries are doing to prepare.

Guests:

Anthony Zurcher, BBC North America correspondent\\nInu Manak, fellow for trade policy at the Council on Foreign Relations\\nSir Lawrence Freedman, Emeritus Professor of War Studies at King's College London\\nElizabeth Saunders, Professor and Director of the Mortara Center for International Studies

Production: Ben Carter, Claire Bowes and Sally Abrahams\\nProduction co-ordinator: Sophie Hill and Jacqui Johnson\\nSound: James Beard\\nEditor: Richard Vadon