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b'We all talk to ourselves all the time. This kind of inner dialogue can be a good thing, helping us focus and work through problems, but it can also go off the rails, turning into worry and negative rumination.\\n\\nMy guest today calls this negative self-talk "chatter," and in a book of the same name he outlines how to get a handle on it. His name is Ethan Kross, he\'s a psychologist and the\\xa0director of the Emotion & Self Control Lab, and we begin our conversation\\xa0with the way introspection can be both good and bad, and the function of the voice in our heads. We discuss why negative\\xa0emotions\\xa0make us want to reach out to other people, and how this impulse\\xa0can be harnessed in either a positive\\xa0or detrimental way. We then unpack how managing the way we talk to ourselves really comes down to zooming\\xa0out and getting distance from the self, and how this can be accomplished with a variety of tools, from engaging in a kind of time travel\\xa0to going out into nature.\\n\\nGet the show notes at aom.is/chatter.'