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This week we\\u2019re joined by Shelley Poticha, Director of NRDC\\u2019s Urban Solutions Program.\\xa0 We chat about a couple of programs she\\u2019s working on at NRDC including SPARCC and the City Energy Project.\\xa0 I ask about the Clean Power Plan and we talk about how FTA and HUD were finally connected as well as the 1993 book she wrote with Peter Calthorpe about TOD called The Next American Metropolis.