15: This is Not the End

Published: June 11, 2021, 4:40 a.m.

In this final episode of Season 01, Jonathan and Jeff wrap things up by establishing their definitive positions on all of the topics discussed over the previous 14 episodes. Just kidding! Instead, they reflect on what they discussed, what were the questions raised, and what contributed to the conversational paths they meandered along. They touch on the value of paying kids to do huge, non-utilitarian projects that they express interest in. They discuss the challenge of coming up with definitions and why a good definition can be so satisfying -- and how definitions can still carry the weight of our implicit biases. They talk about how exciting and interesting "big idea" books can be, and how they are probably also only 6% right (that number was of course mathematically deduced and can be wholly relied upon). They ask whether the words "saliva" and "salience" have a common root. (Postscript: They don't!). Jonathan introduces the important concept of "hard pants" -- a term which Jeff has used in work meetings since the recording of this episode.

During the second half of the show, they talk about the sorts of topics that they might be interested in discussing during Season 02. Some of the topics mentioned include: technology, myth and symbolism, sci-fi and fantasy, culture-making, and The Two Popes. Prior to reviewing these, Jon raises a few remaining questions he has about capitalism. This leads to a discussion about the centrality of "trust" to so many topics. Jeff and Jon talk about the subject of "culture" and what topics might come up under that category -- including sub-culture, media and entertainment, workplace culture, etc. Jeff goes on a slight rant about the impact of the winds of reality upon the boundaries of Christendom and how this is a good thing that has led to new possibilities. And they finish with some exploration of whether they have received any emails over the course of the season. (The jury is still out on this question.)

Speaking of which: if you would like to send us a note, email us at subjectsinprocesspodcast@gmail.com. See you next season!


Show Notes:

  • A Secular Age by Charles Taylor: https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674986916
  • Sources of the Self by Charles Taylor: https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674824263
  • The Human Condition by Hannah Arendt: https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/H/bo29137972.html
  • Podcast: "The Meaning of Life" from The Fundamentalists Podcast with Peter Rollins and Elliott Morgan (https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-meaning-of-life/id1346820645?i=1000515703145)
  • After Virtue by Alasdair MacIntyre: https://undpress.nd.edu/9780268035044/after-virtue/
  • A Canticle for Leibowitz by Walter M. Miller, Jr.: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/114888/a-canticle-for-leibowitz-by-walter-m-miller-jr/
  • Movie: Raya and the Last Dragon (https://www.disneyplus.com/movies/raya-and-the-last-dragon/6dyengbx3iYK) 
  • Dragonlance Chronicles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragonlance_Chronicles)
  • Christ and Culture by H. Richard Niebuhr: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/christ-and-culture-h-richard-niebuhr
  • Podcast: "Left Behind 2014" from Good Christian Fun, feat. Griffin Newman (https://headgum.com/good-christian-fun/left-behind-2014-with-griffin-newman)


Music Notes:

Theme Music: "What u Thinkin? (Instrumental)" by Wataboi on Pixabay

Intermission Music: "Lazy Morning" Tim Moor on Pixabay