09: In & Of Itself

Published: April 28, 2021, 3:05 p.m.

After several episodes discussing more-or-less one subject, Jonathan and Jeff are moving on to something else! Maybe this really is subjects-in-progress after all!

Using Derek DelGaudio's philosophical magic show, In and Of Itself, as a springboard (and avoiding spoilers), Jonathan and Jeff walk through a very high-level history of philosophy (Heraclitus, Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Nietzsche, and a sprinkling of others) and discuss the pursuit and discovery of meaning. The conversation is somewhat wide-ranging, briefly touching on an old band Jeff was in called Imitators of the Third Kind, the differences between "chair-ness" and "chairs," the Heraclitean leanings of Disney's Pocahontas, the Resurrection and "the scandal of particularity," the relation of the universal and the particular and its role in creating meaning, apophasis/cataphasis, and a strong closing recommendation to not be a Sophist (or at least not every day). Lots of stuff in the show notes on this one! 

Stay tuned for Jeff's movie pitch: "In a world where someone's trying to kill Socrates..." 


Show Notes: 

  • Derek DelGaudio's In and Of Itself: https://store.cineplex.com/Product/derek-delgaudios-in-of-itself 
  • The Incredible Burt Wonderstone: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0790628/ 
  • Gerard Manley Hopkins, "That Nature is a Heraclitean Fire and of the Comfort of the Resurrection": https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44397/that-nature-is-a-heraclitean-fire-and-of-the-comfort-of-the-resurrection 
  • Ivan Illich, "The Scopic Past and the Ethics of the Gaze": http://www.davidtinapple.com/illich/1998_scopic_past.PDF 
  • Madeleine L'Engle, A Wind in the Door: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Wind_in_the_Door 
  • Annabel Lyon, The Golden Mean: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/104824/the-golden-mean-by-annabel-lyon/ 
  • Viktor Frankel, Man's Search for Meaning: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man%27s_Search_for_Meaning 
  • New cell imaging technology: https://youtu.be/9euW5iCjKDo 


Music: 

Theme Music: "What u Thinkin? (Instrumental)" by Wataboi on Pixabay 

Intermission Music: Dan Henig, "Subway Dreams," YouTube Audio Library