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Published: Aug. 12, 2023, 9:27 p.m.

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\\u201c\\u2019At our hearts, we\'ve been talking about the quantum physics of things, the things that don\'t make sense, but we know them to be true...\\u201d\\u2015 Chris Kalous

I contacted Chris Kalous, host of The Enormocast Podcast, in order to talk about the American Alpine Club\\u2019s Climbers Grief Fund, in which I am a volunteer therapist.

My attitude is that grief counseling is one of the last things a climber needs therapy for, literally, and that counseling can be empowering and can make one both a better person and a better climber.

Naturally, Chris and I talk about a lot of things relating to climbing, exploration, and how attitudes have changed over the decades.

This audio is my edit of his original podcast. I took out the ads because I don\\u2019t think I\\u2019m obliged to keep them, and you don\\u2019t want to hear them, but our conversation remains intact. To listen to the original, with the ads, go here:

August 7, 2023 by Chris Kalous

Enormocast #268: Lincoln Stoller\\u2013The Physics of the Unknown

https://enormocast.com/2023/08/enomrocast-268-lincoln-stoller-the-physics-of-the-unknown/

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