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b'Using our APIs we built Payment Services to allow our clients to benefit from fast and convenient payments. In this episode we look at how we are providing the Payment Services to consumers more widely.\\n\\nWe look at how sole traders, companies, and even government departments can benefit from the same systems we have built for our current account.\\n\\nWith Starling COO Julian Sawyer, Head of APIs Sam Everington, and your regular host Jason Maude.'