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Dr. Singh. Some scientists say that we have improved on nature by making things like plastic and medicine. Śrīla Prabhupāda. In Vedic times people ate on silver and golden plates, but now the scientists have improved things with plastic plates. (Laughter.) Dr. Singh. The plastic has become a great problem because they cannot get rid of it. There is no way to dispose of it. It just continues to pile up. Here Is the Proof Dr. Wolf-Rottkay. The materialists would be more sincere if they said, "We don't want to be taken out of our dream. We want to continue trying to enjoy our senses with all our machines." But they will not admit that their attempts to enjoy always fail. Śrīla Prabhupāda. That is their foolishness. Eventually they have to admit it. Dr. Wolf-Rottkay. But they say, "Try, try again." Śrīla Prabhupāda. How can they try? Suppose you cannot see because you are suffering from cataracts. If you try to see - you try, try, try, try, try. Is that the cure for cataracts? No. You will never be cured like that. You must go to a physician, who will perform a surgical operation to restore your eyesight. You cannot see by trying and trying: biglink.to/lifecomesfromlife